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#1 bart_8000

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Posted 02 January 2008 - 03:27 PM

hi, i would like to ask if anyone here use norman 200b flashes for skate shots. the prizes of it on ebay are interesting, it has good flash duration (1/800 at 200ws or even 1/900, i dont know for sure), gn is about 160, it is a bulb flash. can you tell me something about the battery (the recovery time, battery size and weight etc)
i've been comparing norman 200b and sunpak 120j. it seams that norman is better (flash duration and gn speaks for it, against it is normans battery sizes). what do you think about that?
and what about lumedynes (the 200ws ones). they are much more powerfull, but much more expensive to. the battery is also big. i dont know nothing about the flash duration and recowery time
for me flash duration, size and prize are the most important factors. what do you thing i should choose (im shooting medium format and dslr)

#2 pmurda

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 01:18 PM

Let me know if you find out. I have a shit ton of old Norman Equipment my homegirl gave me!

#3 bart_8000

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 02:59 PM

the norman 400b is very interesting (check this link http://www.bhphotovi...y_Assembly.html - it has a build in pocket wizard slave !!! and 3 sek recowery to full power flash), it has duration of a 1/900 and gn of a 163 (i made a mistake above, 200b has the gn of a 113 and a duration about 1/1500- 1/1800). comparing it to the sunpak 120j which has a duration 1/600 at full and 150 gn it looks like norman wins, but norman battery are much more bigger and havier,and norman kits are more expensive.
i'd choose sunpak because they are cheaper, but i dont know if the duration will by fast enough (mayby on a 1/2 power- but gn will decrease then and will it be enough strong to shoot on medium format ???). if somebody use the sunpak 120j please help. peace

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 06:09 AM

the 400b sounds like its gonna be a tidge slow for skating especially when the skater is moving across the frame at speed, the 200b however i cant see many problems with duration wise but that guide number could cause a few issues, i think its a bit odd you're comparing the 120j with a norman pack, as basically the 120j is just a slightly more powerful 555 with a bulb head. The 120j is strong enough though, i used one at a 1/4 and it came out fine.

I'd research into exactly what you need because it's not something that'll be a cheap mistake to make, whichever route you choose.

#5 bart_8000

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:43 AM

i need it for skateboarding but also for some other foto projeckts (portrets, fashon, art shit, etc). i'd like to get a strobe that will be fast enough for skating and would produce nice light for portrets, akts, etc. 120j on 1/4 seems fast but do the 1/4 of a power will be good for medium format film (iso 100) exposure? (one solution is to place the flash very close; other is to get other powerfull strobe like sunpak 555 or 544 for lighting the front of the skater- that it will freeze the movement good; third is to shoot on iso 400 film). for me it's realy hard to judge. right now i think that a set of two sunpaks 120j + two vivitars or one sunpak 555/544 is a good choise. but that is the situation for now ;-]

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:55 AM

It all depends on how much scrilla you've got...

As someone on here said... buy nice or buy twice.

Look into the Lumedyne Action packs. Are you planning on using a lot of modifiers like softboxes, grids, snoots, gels, umbrellas? Its important to look at what the company has to offer you.

#7 bart_8000

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 02:55 PM

i just want to know is the 120j fast enough to shoot skateboarding with medium format film camera. i cant affort lumedynes (mayby used ones from ebay). can anybody answer this question?

#8 mikejl29

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 03:00 PM

Ok then. It won't be fast enough on full power (Based on the 1/600 duration in the manual) but if you go to 1/2 power it would be fine.

There are a few people on here who have shot MF with the 120J... first off the top of my head would be Jordan.

#9 bart_8000

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 04:05 PM

thanks a lot mike. there are many people who shoot skate on 120j (e.g. http://www.flickr.com/photos/oilinki/ ; http://www.flickr.co...mulfhunter_com/ ; http://www.flickr.co...@N00/696351855/ and of course jordan http://www.flickr.co...anconwayphoto/). but do you think that it will be better when you'll use 120j with same faster flashes like 555 or vivitar as a freezers of the skater?

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Posted 05 January 2008 - 02:23 PM

god dude that would be so convenient to have pws built into them
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youll see how much better than any pc you ever had they were.

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