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when i try to check the box for sound the sounds setting are blocked and wont let me do anything. i tried it in mpeg-4 and quicktime movie. i have my video rendered in avi uncompressed

 

EDIT: do the [x] mean checked or unchecked?

 

just try a bunch of different shit. Maybe re install it?

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Thanks a lot to the original poster for this. I haven't done any editing for a while and it was super nice to know right where to go to make sure I had my compression settings right.

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sorry for bump but im fucked again. i try exporting as avi (h.264) and the video ends up with only audio and shows black. then i tried a different method and tried mpeg-4 compressed into h264 and it would save. once it saved, it disappeared. that happened twice. just pm me if you know how to fix this because ill forget by tomorrow

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mpeg streamclip ALWAYS outputs a green video and only audio... i tried avi-mov avi-avi avi-mp4 mov-mov and all same result, i exported uncompressed from sony vegas and dv-pal ... any advice? (i used h263 codec)

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POST 4000 YEAHHHHHHHHH

Ok, probably 2 out of 3 threads in here are the same questions about compression for this or that and its pretty much ruined this forum, so hopefully this thread will put an end to all this crap and we can get back to talking about ramp slomos and serial numbers

 

if you have anything to ask about compression FUCKING POST IN HERE, or even better read through the thread as its probably been answered

 

ok so, where to start....

 

compressing is taking your full quality clip, and lessening the filesize, therefore making it lower quality. you can generally compress your clips straight out of your editing program, but this is also generally not the best method as other programs can do a better job. so if you want to use another program youll have to first export your video in full quality.

exporting full quality

this is the basic form of exporting a clip, you export it as the same format you capture it and you do this when you want to take the clip to another program, have a clip youve made, exporting for your final vid or whatever.

 

PC users

 

PCs deal in AVI, the windows video format. standard firewire capturing will capture in dv avi, but you can export as this, or as uncompressed avi.

the latter will result in huge file sizes but will always retain quality, while dv avi will slightly reduce it if you have added any type of effect to the footage.

 

in premiere

 

file > export > movie

 

from then you can click on settings and either keep the standard dv avi option, or change it to microsoft (uncompressed) avi.

 

in vegas

 

for dv avi - file > render as > video for windows AVI

 

for uncompressed - file > render as > default template

 

in movie maker

 

choose 'save video to my computer' and when the export options come up choose other, then avi from the list

 

from final cut (mac)

 

macs use quicktime (mov) files. to export a full quality mov file choose file > export > quicktime movie. done

 

in after effects (pc)

 

Composition > add to render queue

 

click on render settings, use these settings

 

settings1.jpg

 

click on output module, and use these settings

 

settings2.jpg

 

click on format options there if you want to switch between dv and uncompressed

 

to choose where to save the file, click on output to and choose location and the name.

Click render and sit tight.

to keep these settings, click the dropdown button next to RS or OM and choose 'make template'. click edit and input the appropriate settings, then choose a name for your settings. up the top select 'movie default' and choose your new settings. these will now be the default for your clips.

exporting for web

 

this is the big one

 

as you should have noticed, the full quality avi /mov files are huuuuge, way to big to put online. so you need to compress them

as a rule of thumb files are compressed to mov, as you can get the best results using this format.

the way this is done is by exporting full quality as above, and using a 3rd party program to compress the files, as they are designed more for this and so can achieve better results. for example, premiere pro has the option to export as mov, but youre never gonna get it how you want.

 

so what to use...

 

mpeg streamclip

 

the most common one is mpeg streamclip, as its free. download this from www.squared5.com

 

here are some decent settings to compress to a mov file (thanks RileyH)

 

encoding.jpg

 

and some more settings from Kyle T

 

1zldqnk.jpg

 

example footage - youtube

vimeo

 

quicktime pro

 

another cheap alternative, quicktime pro has an advantage of being able to cut clips down and drag them into others to export a number of clips as one. purchase from here for just $30

 

go to file > export and use the H.264 compression settings. here are some great ones

QTP also has the ability to easily convert movs to avis, for users taking files from FCP into premiere or vegas.

sorenson squeeze

 

SS is the much more expensive option, but is seriously useful.

 

the most common settings used are the infamous 'super settings'. they give a great quality, small file size mov file. Super Settings are best used when youre going to host the file in its original mov state, rather than on a site that converts to flash

 

these settings can be downloaded from here (thanks to FellaFilmer) and imported into sorenson. to do that -

 

-unzip the file you downloaded

-in SS, under format and compression settings, click on quicktime

-click on the '+' icon underneath

-click import and select the xss file you just unzipped

-the settings will be imported. choose a name at the top, and hit OK. these will now become an option in the list of quicktime presets

 

alternatively, these settings can be manually inputted. use the same method as above, but instead of choosing import, enter all these settings.

 

supersettingssg.jpg

 

NOTE - IF YOURE IN NTSC REGION, CHANGE THE FRAME RATE TO 30, IF YOURE IN PAL LAND MAKE IT 25

note - with any of these web compression settings, you may want to up the bitrate a little if you are planning to upload to a site that will convert your file to flash

Alot of sites, such as SP vids, convert to flash, so youre gonna want to have your vid a little higher quality than that. Heres some random settings i made that i use, feel free to try them and tweak them, just make sure to let me know your results!

 

settings.jpg

youtube compression

 

youtube is a little different, as it is a pile of shit. the level of compression it puts on an uploaded clip is ridiculous, so you may want to compress it significantly less before uploading here. i'll leave this part open to contributions for the moment, but here are a few methods ive used.

 

Sorenson Squeeze - The Full Quality Mov Method

 

heres the SS settings i use for youtube uploading. this compression also gives you a very near full resolution mov file whilst still keeping a pretty good file size. input method is above

 

fullqmovsettings.jpg

 

again note the framerate for your region

also set 'keyframe every' to 150 for NTSC, 125 for pal. just remember it as 5 times your regions framerate

 

id say this result is pretty decent as far as youtube vids go.

note - these are different from the first SS settings that were here when i made this thread. that actually gave a worse video with a larger file size!

 

the movie maker way!

 

i know right? i just finally got round to trying this. take your file into wmm, and simply save as 'best quality for playback on my computer. a very simple method that doesnt come out too bad at all considering.

the file size is also good, making a 3:10 video just 40 mb while still looking good.

 

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note - yes we know mikendo has some amazing youtube compression settings. hes not going to tell you what they are. give it up

compressing for DVD

 

video files need to be converted to MPEG2 before being burned to disc. BUT the files you take into your dvd program do not need to be mpeg2 files, as the program can convert them itself. so export as full quality avi or mov (as earlier) and take them to your program. that stops the files from needlessly being compressed twice. once they are in there higher end dvd programs such as encore will have transcode settings that you can tweak to get the best results. a full guide on using those are HERE

NOTE - this is pretty incomplete at the moment. if anyone can contribute some more decent settings, especially settings for youtube from any program, or some settings for mpeg2 files through FCPs compressor, or just any other good shit, get it to me somehow so i can get it in here. i really wana make this a complete thread for compressing to end all these repetitive threads

 

what about exporting slow mo's in after effects on a mac???

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Ok, when I export from final cut (exporting in 1080p. some clips are stretched SD, some are HD) the video looks fine, but when I covert it to Mpeg4 (using mpeg streamclip) the stretched footage always has little black lines across the bottom. Can anyone help?

Here is a screen shot of what I am talking about.

 

Screenshot2011-05-06at32120PM.png

 

The top is the regular MOV file from final cut. the bottom is the same file after it has been converted.

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Is there anyway to compress videos in HD. I have a canon HV20 and i just started doing this compression stuff. Every time the video is done its ends up in 4:3 and no "HD" link. Help is much appreciated.

For example it turns out like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS-JcP_Dio0

on streamclip tick 16:9 for the aspect ratio and change the resolution to hd

of youre not using streamclip then idk how to help

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on streamclip tick 16:9 for the aspect ratio and change the resolution to hd

of youre not using streamclip then idk how to help

Every time i do that i seem to only get the audio.

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mpeg streamclip ALWAYS outputs a green video and only audio... i tried avi-mov avi-avi avi-mp4 mov-mov and all same result, i exported uncompressed from sony vegas and dv-pal ... any advice? (i used h263 codec)

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When I compress in mpeg streamclip I usually adjust the data rate limit so the file output is around 1 gig. Is this a good idea? I don't really mind the wait for the youtube upload, and I have an external HD so I don't worry about the size either.

here are my settings:

mpeg.jpg

Is there anything I'm doing wrong? Any way to get better quality?

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I'm using FCP but when I try to export quicktime movie, I don't get a .mov file. I just get a "Final Cut Pro Movie File" every time. Any help?

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When I compress in mpeg streamclip I usually adjust the data rate limit so the file output is around 1 gig. Is this a good idea?

No. DV is only 25 mbit/s. If you set the data rate to anything higher than that just to make the file 1 gig, all you're doing is wasting space.

I'm using FCP but when I try to export quicktime movie, I don't get a .mov file. I just get a "Final Cut Pro Movie File" every time. Any help?

You're probably not exporting as a self-contained movie, there's a check box for that in the export dialogue.

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You're probably not exporting as a self-contained movie, there's a check box for that in the export dialogue.

 

Yea I clicked that but I still get this odd file type.

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Yea I clicked that but I still get this odd file type.

Try setting the default program that opens .movs to Quicktime, on some of the Macs at my school the kids messed with so that .movs open as a default in final cut.

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Try setting the default program that opens .movs to Quicktime, on some of the Macs at my school the kids messed with so that .movs open as a default in final cut.

thats the problem. it doesnt make a .mov file when i export. i can watch the video on my computer but i can't upload to youtube or vimeo.

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i did all of my editing/color correcting in vegas. and i ramped in after effects. my clips look amazing in vegas but i cant seem to get my rendering settings right. for example. the faces in my video... http://youtu.be/agL22iUALFQ arent detailed its not sharp as it should be. how could i fix that?

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here is a video i made with my up to date compression techniques. if its easier to see it being done than to read it, click the link.

 

Ut00b

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