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38 minutes ago, Goob said:

So we need government because you're scared of Walmart...

walmart's profits have been in decline, a more legitimate concern would be for more dominate companies like nestle or monsanto being permitted to operate with impunity.

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35 minutes ago, FLstrange said:

walmart's profits have been in decline, a more legitimate concern would be for more dominate companies like nestle or monsanto being permitted to operate with impunity.

Lol. Like they do now, because of government? A truly free market wouldn't let any business operate with impunity.

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1 hour ago, Goob said:

Lol. Like they do now, because of government? A truly free market wouldn't let any business operate with impunity.

they would be allowed to do as they please completely free of repercussions. instead of swaying opinions of government constituents with lobbyist money to be granted extra ability to dominate competition and consumers, they would have a free-pass to subjugate the market. the world's large companies are more than capable of keeping common people under their thumb and eliminating competition.

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32 minutes ago, FLstrange said:

they would be allowed to do as they please completely free of repercussions. instead of swaying opinions of government constituents with lobbyist money to be granted extra ability to dominate competition and consumers, they would have a free-pass to subjugate the market. the world's large companies are more than capable of keeping common people under their thumb and eliminating competition.

No they are not. That's why they need government to exist.

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8 minutes ago, Goob said:

No they are not. That's why they need government to exist.

they would love government not to exist. companies mindlessly generate profit with machine like logic,  with law removed things like complete slave labor, totally ravaging the environment, and sabotaging competitors on unparalleled levels would become standard smart business practices.

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20 minutes ago, FLstrange said:

they would love government not to exist. companies mindlessly generate profit with machine like logic,  with law removed things like complete slave labor, totally ravaging the environment, and sabotaging competitors on unparalleled levels would become standard smart business practices.

You're acting like the consumer has no accountability in the market whatsoever. Government and businesses are a reflection of the masses. Assume responsibility for your life, FL. Just because YOU can't take care of yourself doesn't mean other people should be forced to, which is just an excuse big business uses to justify enslaving us through government (welfare). And the environment is fine. Earth always has and always will be here. It's a closed, self-sustaining, self-regulating system. If we (THE MASSES) don't wake up, it's not the environment that's going to be in trouble, it's us. 

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18 minutes ago, Goob said:

You're acting like the consumer has no accountability in the market whatsoever. Government and businesses are a reflection of the masses. Assume responsibility for your life, FL. Just because YOU can't take care of yourself doesn't mean other people should be forced to, which is just an excuse big business uses to justify enslaving us through government (welfare). And the environment is fine. Earth always has and always will be here. It's a closed, self-sustaining, self-regulating system. If we (THE MASSES) don't wake up, it's not the environment that's going to be in trouble, it's us. 

consumer accountability is an interesting subject. what device are you using to access this forum? i seem to remember you being a fanboy of apple products in the past, are you aware of the company that manufacturers the components used in their products? look up foxconn, workers there regularly jump off the balconies to commit suicide because of the working conditions, it was so common nets were installed to prevent this from happening. china has poor protection for human rights in factory work environments because less protection for workers means a stronger economy. remove law and any human right violations are permitted. as a consumer you support this company by purchasing their products. ready to give up your iphone and macbook? even if you were, you would have a difficult time finding computers, phones, and most electronics with components that weren't manufactured in similar working conditions. i guess choosing not to use these items is one way to avoid supporting the companies that create them, but most people would not decide to do so. companies that try to conduct themselves ethically and provide better working conditions have less profit as a result and fail as a company because bigger manufacturers can undercut them on costs of production. government is not the one responsible for this happening, its the ambitions of the company foxconn.

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26 minutes ago, FLstrange said:

consumer accountability is an interesting subject. what device are you using to access this forum? i seem to remember you being a fanboy of apple products in the past, are you aware of the company that manufacturers the components used in their products? look up foxconn, workers there regularly jump off the balconies to commit suicide because of the working conditions, it was so common nets were installed to prevent this from happening. china has poor protection for human rights in factory work environments because less protection for workers means a stronger economy. remove law and any human right violations are permitted. as a consumer you support this company by purchasing their products. ready to give up your iphone and macbook? even if you were, you would have a difficult time finding computers, phones, and most electronics with components that weren't manufactured in similar working conditions. i guess choosing not to use these items is one way to avoid supporting the companies that create them, but most people would not decide to do so. companies that try to conduct themselves ethically and provide better working conditions have less profit as a result and fail as a company because bigger manufacturers can undercut them on costs of production. government is not the one responsible for this happening, its the ambitions of the company foxconn.

If you really 'bout this shit let's do the live discussion. There's literally no reason not to other than you must just be really embarrassed about who you are as a person.

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36 minutes ago, Goob said:

If you really 'bout this shit let's do the live discussion. There's literally no reason not to other than you must just be really embarrassed about who you are as a person.

 a live discussion doesn't accomplish anything more in the debate other than people can get louder and talk over each other, its a less productive format than text. if youre really 'bout your ideals why would you support companies like foxconn by buying their products? the way they conduct business doesn't fit into your vision for a utopian fantasy world.

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10 minutes ago, FLstrange said:

 a live discussion doesn't accomplish anything more in the debate other than people can get louder and talk over each other, its a less productive format than text. if youre really 'bout your ideals why would you support companies like foxconn by buying their products? the way they conduct business doesn't fit into your vision for a utopian fantasy world.

I'm not going to talk over you. It would be back and forth. We would each give each other a chance to speak before talking. Everyone knows people are less likely to be civil "online". It would be way more efficient.

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Just now, Goob said:

I'm not going to talk over you. It would be back and forth. We would each give each other a chance to speak before talking. Everyone knows people are less likely to be civil through a computer screen. It would be way more efficient.

i prefer the forum. if you decide not to be civil like youve done previously thats up to you.

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33 minutes ago, FLstrange said:

i prefer the forum. if you decide not to be civil like youve done previously thats up to you.

You prefer the forum because you look like this guy:

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I would gladly slit the throat of any statist, as they are threats to the free market.

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