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Hey, starting a new thread because digging through years-old threads on the subject is maddening and most the relevant software has long since changed. 

I'm a FCPx user, but interested in the process of upscaling SD vx footage in Premiere Pro/FCPx/Compressor/etc... whatever will make it work. 

I'm including an example of a crispy 720p vx upload as well as one of my own if you want to see the difference I'm talking about, although I'm sure you know what I mean if you're here. 

 

https://youtu.be/A-bM40TMzNQ (my footage)

https://youtu.be/V5Cq59_GQn4 (crispy example)

 

My question is essentially how to achieve the 720p vx footage. Methods I've tried include:

1) creating a project in native SD dimensions (NTSC for me - so 640x480) and exporting as 960x720 (to preserve aspect ratio)

2) creating a custom project with 960x720 (rec.601 audio and 29.97 frame rate) and exporting that

3) taking a native 640x480 project, exporting natively, and then upscaling with Compressor/Media Encoder

 

If you have any experience doing this and maybe I'm missing something obvious, I'd sure love the help. 

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My workflow is to work native SD, export native, and then compress in Handbrake at 720. I make videos over a longer timeline and may not be doing things right, but that's my approach.

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I usually make a new project with custom settings 1440 x 1080, 50P and then just throw the vx footage on there, looks even crispier than the Lakai example you put, here's some of my footage:

 

 

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4 hours ago, ziggys91 said:

I usually make a new project with custom settings 1440 x 1080, 50P and then just throw the vx footage on there, looks even crispier than the Lakai example you put, here's some of my footage:

 

 

Wow. This tops it. This is def the best quality I have ever seen on a vx.

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15 hours ago, ziggys91 said:

I usually make a new project with custom settings 1440 x 1080, 50P and then just throw the vx footage on there, looks even crispier than the Lakai example you put, here's some of my footage:

 

 

Pretty nice VX quality. Do you also color correct?

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3 hours ago, LZC said:

Pretty nice VX quality. Do you also color correct?

nah, this is straight from the camera

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On 3/13/2019 at 7:55 AM, ziggys91 said:

I usually make a new project with custom settings 1440 x 1080, 50P and then just throw the vx footage on there, looks even crispier than the Lakai example you put, here's some of my footage:

 

Your footage looks great! Why 50P though? Native vx is 29.97 so I would imagine you'd either keep that frame rate or maybe do 60? But I don't understand 50. I tried creating a project with your exact settings last night and it was essentially playing everything back in slow motion. 

Planning on trying again with 1440x1080 and 29.97 frame rate tonight. 

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On 3/13/2019 at 5:22 AM, TuneBomb said:

My workflow is to work native SD, export native, and then compress in Handbrake at 720. I make videos over a longer timeline and may not be doing things right, but that's my approach.

This is what makes the most sense to me. I just didn't know if there was a difference between working on 1) native timeline, native export, then conversion vs 2) custom timeline, custom export. The difference could honestly be negligible... I don't have enough experience with compression. You have any footage online for an example?

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17 hours ago, brgmmb said:

Your footage looks great! Why 50P though? Native vx is 29.97 so I would imagine you'd either keep that frame rate or maybe do 60? But I don't understand 50. I tried creating a project with your exact settings last night and it was essentially playing everything back in slow motion. 

Planning on trying again with 1440x1080 and 29.97 frame rate tonight. 

I guess he is using a PAL VX shooting 50i so you can export 25p or 50p for a "smoother" look.

And regarding the upscale topic, I usually set my timeline to the exact same setting that the source footages, so I don't have to render anything to playback.

Then I export to 1478x1080 to keep the pixel aspect ratio.

Or sometime I export to 1920x1080 with black bars...

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On 3/14/2019 at 4:49 PM, brgmmb said:

Your footage looks great! Why 50P though? Native vx is 29.97 so I would imagine you'd either keep that frame rate or maybe do 60? But I don't understand 50. I tried creating a project with your exact settings last night and it was essentially playing everything back in slow motion. 

Planning on trying again with 1440x1080 and 29.97 frame rate tonight. 

thanks, it's a pal vx, so 50i instead of 60i yea

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