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ok, I've been on this wonderful skateperception for over a year now and I must say, I've learned a lot from the people on here. I, probably like most photographers on here, most frequent the gallery. The one response I've seen the most of on here is "bad comp", "comp is lacking", "get a book on composition" and things like that. Well why buy a book when we have the internet? I'm not trying to be a dick, but I doubt many people search the internet for tips on composition (including myself). So I decided to scour the internet and find some sites on composition to help some people on here. And yes, I will be reading up on these as well.

Here is kodak tips for composition
[url="http://asp.photo.free.fr/Composition/photoProgramCompMainClass.shtml"]Beginnings of Photographic Composition[/url]

Photo comps
[url="http://www.risd.org/schools/phs/clubs/ponyexpr/photoj/composi/"]Lots of tips[/url]

Horizontal Lines
[url="http://digital-photography-school.com/blog/using-horizontal-lines-in-photography/"]Using them lines[/url]

Verticle Lines
[url="http://digital-photography-school.com/blog/using-vertical-lines-in-photography/"]them tall lines[/url]

[url="http://www.johnharveyphoto.com/LearnComposition/"]rule breaker[/url]

[url="http://photo.net/learn/sports/overview"]Sports Composition[/url]

Not a lot now, but I'm gonna continue to search more tomarrow. And I'm gonna add some books as well. I know some of you know some better sites, so please post them. Lets make this a good learning thread, eh???
I'm gonna read more....Later.

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good stuff for sure. i just emailed these links to a few friends to help them out.


points? haha

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Honestly, I believe composition can't not be taught. Sure you can do generic compositions, or whatever. But when a new situation comes by, and something new is introduced. It's all about how you feel will work for the image. Seriously, best tip is just shoot more, see how the outcomes are, and see if it looks awkward or not. Then you will start learning slowly what is nice and appealing.

That, or take some art classes, do some drawing, art history.

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Wanna see composition that will make your head explode? Check out the Henri Cartier-Bresson exhibit at ICP right now if you're in the tristate area or visiting NYC soon. His photos have layers and layers of interest and your eyes just keep getting drawn in.

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these are very helpful. im sure they will help a bunch of people on this site with beginner questions. i think this guy deserves a point for this.

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[quote name='Neilson' post='1474917' date='Jan 24 2007, 01:24 AM']Honestly, I believe composition can't not be taught. Sure you can do generic compositions, or whatever. But when a new situation comes by, and something new is introduced. It's all about how you feel will work for the image. Seriously, best tip is just shoot more, see how the outcomes are, and see if it looks awkward or not. Then you will start learning slowly what is nice and appealing.

That, or take some art classes, do some drawing, art history.[/quote]
Yes, I agree composition cannot be taught, but I think these sites defitnitly help on what sometimes makes a good composition. I don't think people will imitate these, just some tips to keep in mind when you're shooting things. And hopfully some of those sites, and if some others post some as well, will help some newcomers to photography. Like I said, I hope this can turn into a helpful learning thread.

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Heres another site I found that deals some with contrast and framing in composition.
[url="http://photoinf.com/General/NAVY/Contrast_and_Framing.htm"]contrast and framing.[/url]

and another good one dealing with framing.
[url="http://www.scrapjazz.com/topics/Photography/Lessons/579.php"]framing[/url]

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Heres some books dealing with composition:
this site has a lot of books listed that you can search for and find.
[url="http://home.nc.rr.com/tspadaro/Books_on_Composition.html"]lots of comp books[/url]

a book from b&h
[url="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=details&Q=&is=REG&O=productlist&sku=477258"]Amphoto Book: Composition[/url]

Bert p Krages book on composition
[url="http://www.krages.com/pac.htm"]the art of composition[/url]

and another site dealing with basic composition
[url="http://www.photography.com/basic-composition.php"]basic composition for photography[/url]

still searching for more.....

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[quote name='junkedBrian' post='1480678' date='Jan 26 2007, 11:14 AM']if your composition sucks you should buy more skate mags[/quote]

cause skate mags teach so much about composition in all types of photography.


On another note, I like that first BW portrait on ur site a lot.

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Another Book, I've got this one.
It's called Photography: a practical guide. Great book that has some good shit on composition that I've been reading up on like
c c c crazy.

yeah, a bump as well.

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Also consider that composition is an opinion. Some may hate it and others love it. I do have a problem with it sometimes, especialy fisheye, thats part of why I don't own one. The other is that I think it makes it to easy to make a photograph interesting. I love the way Blabac shoots fish though.

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[quote name='Neilson' post='1474917' date='Jan 24 2007, 01:24 AM']Honestly, I believe composition [color="#FF8C00"]can't not[/color] be taught.[/quote]
Neither can grammar. :D

I agree with you but sites like the ones posted definitely introduce people into the fundamental rules of composition.

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[quote name='Exhumed' post='1486377' date='Jan 29 2007, 02:32 AM']Neither can grammar. :D[/quote]

Damn, my excuse that it was late and I wanted to sleep. Yeah...

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[quote name='Jonsa' post='1474926' date='Jan 23 2007, 07:26 PM']Wanna see composition that will make your head explode? Check out the Henri Cartier-Bresson exhibit at ICP right now if you're in the tristate area or visiting NYC soon. His photos have layers and layers of interest and your eyes just keep getting drawn in.[/quote]
Yeh Bresson is one of the greatest ever. I agree real composition cant be taught and like Bresson said "In photography anything worth learning can't be taught"

[quote name='BartPhoto' post='1483610' date='Jan 27 2007, 06:58 PM']I love the way Blabac shoots fish though.[/quote]
uck I have already said I dont like Blabacs work all that much, but def dont like his fish shots.

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[quote name='jmcnulty' post='1480898' date='Jan 26 2007, 07:27 PM']cause skate mags teach so much about composition in all types of photography.[/quote]

true, but this is a skateboard photography forum

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[quote name='junkedBrian' post='1480678' date='Jan 26 2007, 12:14 PM']if your composition sucks you should buy more skate mags[/quote]

not true at all, i've seen some very boring shots comp wise in mag's. it's hard to bealive some of the stuff they put in sometimes even gets published.. not only for the lack of compostional elements either.

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Man good links and info it really helped me understand about comp, I always been alittle confused by whats good and whats bad comp, good thread thanks mad beginners like me will like this one..

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If everyone learned composition from the same places or the same ways every skateboarding picture would look the same... Atleast thats how i look at it.

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